Contrary to the fact that most of the gender stereotypes Prof. Dalto used were invalid, I really enjoyed this forum because it puts voting between men and women into a different perspective. I had never really thought about why some men and women had voting diferences. I guess I just thought that you supported one or the other and had no reason behind it concerning your gender. It also interested me in hearing about how men externalize anger and women internalize theirs. I can see how this would affect a man or woman's view on the war.
I was surprised at how much the forum actually relates to the literature we've been reading. In "The Man Who Was Almost a Man," Dave seems to be so angry at the whole world because no one gives him any responsiblity. I think he portrays how he externalizes his anger when he buys the gun. Dave acts with retaliation, just as Prof. Dalto said was common for males. In "The Shoyu Kid," the boys are aggressive and seek revenge on the Kid because he is different. I think writers find it easy to pin the barbaric label on males because of stereotypes like the biological hypothesis Prof. Dalto presents. In A Soldier's Play, I think that because the men are in the military, the reader just expects the men to be combative and domineering. Assumptions are made like this all the time.
The female charactes in "Like That" and "The Lesson" are quite different , I think. The narrator in "Like That," really doesn't possess those feminine qualities that Prof. Dalto portrays. Maybe it is because she is still young, but she lashes out at her sister when she gets her period and states that at times she wants "to cry or hit her." Sis, however, does have those qualities in that she keeps her feelings about Tuck to herself and doesn't take her anger out on everyone. She is very emotional as well. In "The Lesson," Sylvia has an aggressive personality too. She is very rude and doesn't act like most girls her age. Also, I know Dr.Tatter didn't bring this story up but what about Gretchen in "Stalking?" God knows she wasn't feminine. Therefore, I believe there is somewhat of a psychological difference between men and women, but I don't think it is as great as Prof. Dalto says it is. Some women can be barbaric and some men can be sensitive. I think it all just depends on the person and the experiences that have shaped their lives.

It is very hard to enter a comment on this weblog when the first person to comment is so thorough about the questions Professor Tatter asks. I agreed with the last comments made by Ashley Black about the stories. I also agreed of each of her descriptions of how the male characters externalize and the female characters internalize their feelings. While I believe that Gretchen shows outward anger through many of the things that she does (obviously), I think she internalizes her anger because of the fact that she has an Invisible Adversary. She takes all of the anger that she can't express out on him, and that, to me, is internalized anger. She is a very rude, angry, and destructive child, but there is anger that she doesn't externalize which is why she imagined her Adversary.

I thought the Forum was very interesting and informative. Like Ashley, I had never thought that there were gender reasons as to why I would vote the way I vote. I would have never thought it had something to do with the way I keep my feelings inside at least. I do agree with it now that I have had time to think it through though. My mother will be voting Democratic in November. She has democratic parents, been divorced, and been threatened violently with a weapon. She is a great example of what Professor Dalto reported. In the past, she has even mentioned to me that she does not support the war, and that is one of the reasons she will be voting Democratic.
I found the Forum today to be much more interesting than the last one we were required to attend not only because I could hear the speaker this time, but also because I felt that these facts could interest anyone male or female, voter or non.

I agree that men use violence and seek punishment or revenge more than women. This is seen in "The Man Who Was Almost a Man" in how being angry led to the desire to buy a gun and shoot people. You can tell that these qualities are learned and biologically inclined because even children commit violent acts toward other children as shown in "The Shoyu Kid" when the boys beat up the shoyu kid. Violence and aggression are men's means of solving problems, like in "A Soldier's Play" when beating people up and murders are common. The bad part of this information for men is that it shows that they automatically resort to violence and aggression, and in all the instances of this, the results are not positive. So should men believe that their solution of using aggression is better than that of women's reluctance to violence? As a woman, I believe that people should be reluctant to violence, but if there is no other solution to the problem, then aggression would have to be used. I think this way because I relate this scenario of war to the scenario of raising children. As child psychologists say, positive reinforcement should be used until the problem gets so out of hand that it cannot be solved any other way except with using negative reinforcement, as in punishment.

Toward the beginning of Dr. Dalto’s forum, I was interested in his voting statistics. I knew that there was some connection between race, income, education, and religiosity and people’s voting habits; but I have never seen the actual data represented before me. I was surprised at how high the numbers were. For instance, I know most African-Americans voted Democratic; however, learning that they are ninety percent more likely to vote Democratic than Republican shocked me. Dr. Dalto’s list of variables also surprised me. I had never considered that unmarried women are more likely to vote Democratic, while married women are likely to vote Republican. I would have been interested to find if married women voted Republican because women who are married personally agreed with the party’s stances whether or not they were wives, or if married women voted Republican because of the male (who was shown to tend to vote Republican) influence from their spouses.

As for gender stereotypes concerning aggressive and passive behavior, I do think that this relates to every story our class has covered. The stories we have read have portrayed the male personality as active and violent; the stories also showed us the female need to internalize fear and to react in more passive manners. About the comment concerning Gretchen in the story “The Stalking,” I do agree that each case must be considered individually. Dr. Dalto’s connection from these personal reactions to the specific voting habits interested me. His viewpoint on gender, race, and class and how these categorizations influence another aspect of our life showed me the importance of our literature study not just for the abolition of our own preconceived judgments but also for the understanding of the motivations and reactions of the populous. I enjoyed hearing his connection between what we are studying in class to a larger issue such as voting habits.

Although, Dr. Dalto's forum was very interesting, I found it very stereotypical and degenerating against women. During the stories we have been reading lately, it is obvious to see how women can be just as violent as men. In the stories, "Stalking" and "The Lesson", Gretchin and Sylvia are quite hateful and often times even abusive towards their surroundings. In Dr. Dalto's statistics, he stated that women are more likely to not retaliate to punishment or fights, but everytime Miss. Moore would say something to Sylvia, she would react with pure hatred. I also know that MANY times, my brother has picked on me and I have retaliated by fighting him, often times breaking many things in our house. But that doesn't prove that I am not nurturing and caring towards people, and that I am not pro-war. In fact, in my family, my mom and I can often be pro-war because of my dad's military standpoint, and the fact that he has shown us that without war, somethings will never be correctly solved. But then again, I wouldn't want people to just go around and shoot enemy's heads off just because it might be beneficiary. It also really irritated me when he said that women are supposed to be the nurturing ones of the household, but in cases like "Miss. Clariol". she was definitely not nurturing towards her daughter. This also implements that Dr. Dalto believes that men are not capable of being the nurturing, caring parent of the household, but I know of families in which the dad is the one who is the caretaker.

In another view, I think that guys are not always pro-war as Dr. Dalto stereotyped them to be. I know of MANY young men, including my brothers, who are not in favor of war, just because of the fact that it might mean leaving their families to go fight a war. I also think that men are not always retaliating against someone who did something wrong to them. I know in my experiences, that my older brother, Daniel would always just laugh at you if you tried to hit him or make fun of him instead of just beat me up for punching him. In the story, "The Man who was almost a man", Dave didn't buy the gun in order to try to kill something or get back at somebody for something they had done to him. Instead, Dave bought the gun in order to just fit into society and feel some sort of responsibility for himself while growing up.

I also felt like his religion facts may have been wrong. In his statistics he showed how women are more religious then men. If this is true, why are almost all bishops men?? Also, having my mom as a pastor has shown me how few women are actually involved as preachers or district superintendants, or bishops. In some ways, my mom has even felt rejection from some church people just because she is a women and they feel that is wrong. Also, if women are more religious then men, how come many other denomonations and religions won't even allow women to be a main part of the service or even serve as a Deacon??

I liked to listen to the statistics of Dr. Dalto's point of view, but then again I think some of his statements were quite stereotypical. Even though the statements might have been stereotypical, I don't know of any other way he could have presented his statistics without being stereotypical to someone or another.

Professor Dalto’s presentation was not the intellectual highlight of my week. In the twenty-first century, why should be listen to psychologists who associate women with the domestic world and men with the competitive, business world? It is simply not viable. If it is truly not feasible, then why would anyone even assume that hormone differences affect the voting gap?

I have always acknowledged the fact that men and women think differently. This has much to do with the fact that many of my friends are male. That being said, I believe that thought patterns are not particularly founded in sexuality. Men think differently than other men and women think differently than other women. In general, people think differently than other people. That is exactly why we are called individuals. Moreover, masculine and feminine characteristics of women and men are not the only aspects that play into voting. Yes, personal encounters with violence correlate, to some extent in a particular cross section of the population, with views on war, but what about other issues. I do not vote for candidates solely on my anti-war values. I vote based on environmental, economic, and personal concerns. I also vote based on the candidate’s personality, image, and views. Additionally, I am not anti-war because of any violence in my life. I also come from a family strong in religion and other typically Republican stereotypes.

I felt like Professor Dalto was, however unknowingly, stereotyping in order to prove a point about an almost insignificant gender gap in the voting population. Would women admit they were victims of violence? Would men admit they were victims of violence? Where are the ego lines drawn, even in an anonymous survey? What defines violence?

Professor Dalto’s hypothesis was clearly proven in “The Man Who Was Almost a Man,” but it was a short story written as a social statement. The gun represented freedom and coming of age, not violence or fear, even after the horse was murdered. In “The Shoyu Kid,” the boys were not so much externalizing violence or punishment as they were externalizing confusion and misunderstanding. They did not understand the shoyu kid so they abused him. He made them question themselves and they did not like how the questioning made them feel. In A Soldier’s Play, Professor Dalto’s point was partially proven, but not entirely. C. J., the victim of the violence did not externalize his emotion. He, like the women that Professor Dalto described, internalized the violence that he felt. He used his music to handle the pain.

As for the female characters that our class has encountered, they do not necessarily follow the patterns set by Professor Dalto either. In “Like That,” Sis does keep her feelings inside, to some extent. However, she spends much time crying and distancing herself from people which, to me, signifies a subtle cry for help. In “The Lesson,” Sylvia is not internalizing the violence she feels. Her comments and actions tell us that. What she does internalize is a determination to be a better person.

I am not saying that Professor Dalto did a poor job with his presentation or his research. I simply disagree with it based on the numerous hours I have spent around both males and females and their reactions to various issues. Because of my sensitivity to individual cases and stories, I will never be a statistician. I am glad that he brought to the table the fact that surveys can have skewed results. People really need to understand the extent to which facts can be altered to display any person’s stance on the issue.

I thought that Professor Dalto's lecture today was very informative, and I was very suprised at how well it actually went along with our class discussions. He said that, according to research, men tend to react to fear and victimization with violence and an attitude of revenge, whereas women tend to be more epathetic. The stories we've been reading both prove and disprove this argument. In "The Shoyu Kid," these young boys who are living during wartime and are in this atmosphere of hate where they are the outsiders, lash out when they see the injustice being done to the Kid. Instead of being angry at the soldier, however, they lash out at the victim, which isn't really revenge but is misplaced anger. In "A Soldier's Play" Waters and Peterson both seek revenge: waters mostly for the discrimmination and stereotypes he has suffered through, and Peterson for the corruption and violence waters exhibited towards Peterson's fellow soldiers. And Dave in "The Man Who Was Almost A Man" acted in a completely different way: when he became afraid he just ran away, which according to Professor Dalto is not a stereotypical male response. The females in the stories we have read do not make stereotypical responses either. Neither or Sylvia or Tuck show much empathy (if any at all) and when they feel attacked by others or by natural occurences, they tend to act violently.
These stories were very informative and entertaining, but it is impossible to have a clear outlook on people and their reactions by reading a few stories, just like can't get a full view of genders and their reactions to certain situations by surveying a few Alabamians.

During Professor Dalto's summary, I found my face contorting in awkward positions as if I had eaten a lemon beyond the sour point. The clearest message that I carried from his report was a simple, personal one: My parents and I are in the minority. I always had the sneaky feeling that my family was in the minority with our social values and representing our values with our "blue" vote, but the presentation made by Dalto transformed that feeling into a fact. I found numerous discrepancies with the data presented, and I feel the need to point out four of the most significant.
Discrepancy #1: All four of my grandparents are/were (one is dead) hard-core Republicans; therefore, my parents were raised with very conservative, southern, Republican values drilled into their heads. Yet, my parents now share more moderate, often quite liberal, open-minded values with me....so, in a sense, I do "fit" the model since I support my parents social values. #2: My family members are white. Professor Dalto stated that typically 90% of white Americans vote Republican. My parents, and I in November, will not cast ballots for the Republican candidate based on differing views for the best leadership for our country. #3: Professor Dalto commented that women are more likely than men to vote for the candidate who is against a war in progress. My father is one of the most peaceful men that I know. He avoids conflict and gallantly champions it with eloquent grace when it approaches him. The present conflict in Iraq and the manner in which it has been led that generated even more conflict have greatly upset him as well as my mother, sister, and me. I have never known him to seek revenge against anyone; he would rather forgive and forget than harbor disturbing grudges that eat away the fibers of one's soul. Obviously, he is in the minority for the male gender according to Dr. Dalto's findings. #4: My parents were educated from pre-school to college to their respected seminary education at the prestigious institutions of Duke University and Emory University; they have been married only once to each other; they are financially stable; they made their home in a very "red state"; and both are obviously very religious. Again, they will not cast a ballot for the candidate that the stereotypical person characterized by Dalto's research would vote for.
The implication that I inferred from his data is quite simplistic. "You can't judge a book by its cover." Just because one is a white, educated, religious, middle to upper class male in Alabama doesn't mean that he will vote for a Republican candidate. Gretchen in Joyce Carol Oates's "Stalking" demonstrates the fact that not all females are nurturing. The younger sister in Carson McCullers' "Like That" is another literary example of discrepancies with Dalto's findings. She used her anger as a weapon striking her sister in deeds and words instead of harboring guilty feelings for experiencing that anger.
Though Dalto's research highlights the majority of the voting public, I identify with the minority.

The Provost¡¯s Forum ¡°The Gender Gap in Times of War ¡°was very interesting to me. I have always heard certain men and military officials look down upon the reactions of women toward war because women were overly feminine or tended to nurture. Instead, women¡¯s reactions toward war are mostly from response of violence.
These findings have a big impact on how we discuss masculinity or femininity. No longer can we just say he or she did an action or thinks a certain way just because of someone¡¯s gender or role in life. We need to drop all of our sex-related stereotypes and focus on deeper feelings.
The ¡°fear factor¡± is a valid way to differentiate between male and female behavior. Men and women react differently to being victims of violence. While men¡¯s traits tend to be anger, and retaliation, women tend to have more fear towards war and empathize with victims. The main character in ¡°The Man Who was Almost a Man¡± is a classic example of the men¡¯s reaction toward violence. Dave was being insulted, and he wanted to kill. When the townspeople laughed at him, he was very angry and wanted revenge. ¡°The Shoyu Kid¡± was also good example of a male¡¯s reaction. The boys did not understand the kid and wanted to take retaliation and beat him up. Also, they were treated badly in the internment camps and wanted to express their anger in various ways.
In ¡°Like That¡± and ¡°The Lesson¡± the reactions of young women were expressed toward a problem. Some of these reactions did not follow the finding that women fear violence. In ¡°The Lesson¡± the main character, a girl, seems to always be angry and take revenge on one of the other children. Also, in ¡°Like That¡± the main character, a young girl, seems to become angry at things that she does not understand. She says very hurtful words to her sister and vows not to become anything like her sister. On the other hand, in
The story ¡°Like That¡± the main character¡¯s sister exhibited behavior of more like Professor Dalto described. She did not want revenge on her younger sister who rudely insulted her. When she had problems with Tuck, she did not take violent action, but seemed to take on actions such as crying and staying in bed.
I believe that the conclusions that Professor Dalto came to were somewhat true, but I think each person will exhibit his or her own feelings. The forum was a generalization.
Even though the forum was on gender issues toward voting and in times of war, I would like to know more about issues such as the gap in race, income, ethnicity, religiosity, and socialization. A much larger gap came from these issues than gender.

I agree with Professor Dalto's hypothesis about the difference between men and women. I was suprised to find that the data was not conclusive. In my experiences with the situations in Dr. Dalto's speech the men have been starting or retaliating and the women, myself included, have been the pasificts and the frightened ones. It probably does go back to basic chemicals and male and female roles in society. In the story "Like That" the older sister experienced something unusual with her boyfriend and as far as the reader can see she does not get mad or violent she just cries, shakes, and become introverted. The little sister is different however, she does get uspet at the situation she has no control over and wants "to hit" things. This is propbably not a typical female response but she was a bit of a tomboy and perhaps at that age she didn't have as much estrogen as she would later. An opposite story to that was a reaction from a young male in "The Man Who Was Almost a Man." This young boy reacts to almost all situation with anger and he really wants revenge on his co-workers, boss, and family for his life and responsibilities. He eventually runs away from his problems which possibly a typical young person reaction. Anyway I was slightly confused by the data collected by Dr. Dalto's studies because my experiences in my life and the experiences in this literature is conlusive with the typical gender roles.

The conclusion I made in the lecture was that we stereotype women to be the peacekeepers and housewives in the world. We always judge the man to do murderous or revengeful acts in the country. Masculinity is defined by how tough man is and femininity is defined as nurturing and empathetic.
The boy in ‘The Man Who was Almost a Man’ wanted a gun. He associated masculinity with owning a weapon. He believed that a gun would give him power.
During the story ‘Like That’ the girl was full of fear. She had a fear of changing and her anger was a reaction to her being scared. She is the opposite to the stereotype of women. She was not the one to keep peace and would take revenge when she had the chance. This is why there are exceptions to every stereotype.

I have never had any Sociology classes or thought very much about the gender gap and why it happens, so Dr. Dalto's lecture was very enlightening for me, especially since I will be voting for the first time in November. I found it intersting that Prof. Dalto's Biological hypothesis and nurturing hypothesis were found to be invalid. They both appeared to be logical reasons for the gender gap in voting. I completely believed that the two hypotheses were going to be proven valid. There I sat agreeing with the fact that all women are emotional, empathetic, non-violent, and nurturing; a stereotype that I had just argued against in my first paper for Dr. Tatter's class. How funny. Ah, but then I was soon brought back to the reality that stereotypes are often wrong. The invalidness of Dalto's first two hypotheses proved this.

Throughout Dr. Dalto's lecture I thought about if any of his hypotheses could be proven true in the way I plan to vote. I suppose I am anti-Bush because my parents are liberal democrats who are anti-Bush. But I am also a woman. Am I anti-Bush because of my estrogen? I have never been violently threatened or harmed, so that can't be it. I suppose I could explore the reasons why I am anti-Bush some more, but this is not a political science web log, and I don't want to get verbally bashed by any republicans who read this.

In "The Man Who Was Almost a Man," Dave associates having a gun (violence) with masculinity. Which, according to Dalto's study, is how most men think in America, or at least in Alabama. In the earlier part of the story, Dave throws a tantrum when his mother doesn't give him his way. (a bit like the study done with the toddler that Dalto referred to.) I found it interesting that Dave reacts like, according to Dalto, the typical male toddler. And when he is found out for shooting the mule, he begins to cry. Hmmm...according to our society, isn't that a bit "feminine" for a "man?"

The characters in "The Shoyu Kid" perfectly illustrate the male "fear factor." The boys reacted in such a violent way toward the Kid because, perhaps their testosterone, but most likely because they had been treated violently by the American military. And, as Dalto has suggested, men react to violence with more violence.

Dr. Tatter didn't suggest this story, but I noted something about "Love Problem" while listening to Dr. Dalto. While talking about the differences of men and women's reactions toward violence, Dalto stated, "If you want a life that is free of violence, have only girl friends." Maybe this is another reason the man in "Love Problem" wanted the "Utopian" lesbian lifestyle. This brought up another question for me. Do gay men and lesbian women react to violence differenty than heterosexual men and women, and how does this come into play with Dalto's study and with our analysis of gender roles in class?

I also thought of another random senario while listening to Dr. Dalto. What would the gender gap be if a woman were running for the presidency in this election? Would a republican female president take Bush's same actions in Iraq? What if this woman had been a victim of a violent crime?

I thoroughly enjoyed Dr. Dalto's lecture, as well as Dr. Hubbs', and Dr. Smith's. It continues to fascinate me how so many aspects of the intellectual world (history, music, politics, the physics of flight) can be applied to stories about gender, race, and class. And also that we can read a story, discuss it, hear a lecture on something completely random, and formulate new understandings of the original story.

I found Dr. Dalto's lecture to be extremely interesting, if not slightly generic. To clarify: I enjoyed listening to the statistics, but I didn't find any of them to be earth-shattering. In my opinion, for the most part, they all made perfect sense. Also, very few of the differences seemed to be over 10% (there may have been more, but I don't remember many). In regards to the way in which we discuss masculinity and femininty in literature, I think all of our preconceived notions are our own self-fulfilling prophecies. I mean, we all (or most of us) just assume that the men should be big and tough, and the women should be dainty and fragile. Because of these assumptions, these are generally the roles which we play. The best example I have for this is the time that my brother and all of his teammates decided to shave their legs for a track meet. After he got home, my brother mentioned to my father that he, god forbid, actually liked the feel of smooth legs. My father promptly informed him that he was no longer to shave his legs because, "that's just not what guys do." Now I happen to agree that a guy with shaved legs is a little odd, but if he really likes the way it feels, why shouldn't he be allowed to shave?
I was also glad to hear Dr. Alto address the whole "men are aggressive and women are nurturing" scenario. There are plenty of examples of aggressive/violent men, but there are also many that aren't. Two years ago I sat on the phone and listened to my best guy friend bawl his eyes out after his girlfriend of about a month broke up with him. The majority of guys I know have never been in a fight, nor have they taken out their anger in any other violent manor. I also know of girls who could not care less about comforting friends of theirs who are upset, or ever having children and raising a family. And I think the theory that girls are so much less violent than guys is a bit extreme. I'm sure statistically guys do show more signs of violence and wanting to go to war, but think of all the women who fought so hard to be accepted into the armed forces. And for every crazed Charles Manson, there is a Lizzie Borden right there to back him up. So I guess the point of all that rambling was to say, I was glad to hear Dr. Dalto state that the biological hypothesis was false.

Even though there was a lot of incorrect accusations made by Dr. Dalto in his lecture, I don't believe they all were invalid. There is a gender gap in the United States between men and women when it comes to voting. I don't think it if fair to say that all women are one way and that all me are the other. I do believe women are more nurturing than men. But on the other hand, a lot of women were for going to Iraq. No one is going to want their child to be the one that might be killed in Iraq, but they believe in the cause.
The lecture was very interesting and I felt as if I was in my Political Science class. My favorite part of the lecture was when Dr. Dalto said, "women are full of estrogen and men are full of testosterone." The children expirament was very interesting, how the boys pushed down the wall to get to their mother. I do believe boys are more agressive than girls, there are exceptions to every sterotype though. A lot of the stereotypes that were made in the lecture would probably apply better to the 1960's rather than 2004. Women are treated a lot more equally to men, and they over lap in their behavior. Women now a days can be just as violent and agressive as men. There are women that fight in Iraq a long side men. When looking at Statistics women are less likely to spank their child, they are more likely to be loving and nurturing. Just like in "The Man who was Almost a Man", there was a young man trying so hard to break away from his youth. It is so important for guys to become "A Man", just like it is for a woman. In the story "Like That" Marlin became an adult by having to deal with Adult problems. If you compare these stories to "The Shouyu Kid" you will see how authors protray boys to more agressive than girls. While Dave was firing a gun, Marlin is crying, and the shouyu kids are about to beat someone up. In the stories that we read, the authors show the readers that boys are more aggressive than women.
I have babysat a lot of different children throughout the past couple of years and the boys have always been a lot more abusive than the girls. Girls are more likely to come up and hung you, the boys hit. This isn't always the case, but it is just more likely. I agree with a lot of the stereotypes made by Dr. Dalto, but that is probably because I fall in most of the catagories that he described for women. There are a lot of different points you can argue, like the ones above in the other students comments.

I found it very interesting in Dr. Dalto's lecture that differences between reactions of men and women, at least in the voting realm, was not clearly linked with nature or nuture, but could possibly be the result of the differences between internalizing or externalizing reactions toward violence. Dr. Dalton hypothesised that men more frequently react externally against by inflicting violence on others, while women tend to react internally by emphazing with other victims.

The idea of men reacting to violence externally is seen in many of the short stories that we have read. In "The Man Who Was Almost a Man" , a young boy wishes to get a gun, a powerful weapon of violence, in order to stop what he sees as oppression: the fact that no one considers him a man. When he accidentally kills Jenny and is forced to pay for her, he reacts to his punsihment by taking an active stance and running away. In "The Shoyu Kid", the young boys are being oppressed by American soldiers keeping them in a camp because they are different, and therefore they inflict violence on another child for the same reason of "being different".

However, in the stories we have read the girls have not reacted to violence internally, as Dr. Dalton predicted and many others have already said. "Stalking" showed a troubled young girl who did not identify or emphasize with other victims, but reacted externally like a man by ruing clothes and such. "Like That" also illustrated a young women who would attack verbally, and usually desire to attack physically, if she felt fear. In both of these situations young women acted opposite what would be considered the female reaction of internalizing. This proves the flaws in sterotypes, proving everyone can never act as what is expected.